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Andru Edwards returns to the show to discuss Apple's big September event and their new products: the iPhones 18 Pro and Duo, AirPods 5, and Apple Watch Series 12/Ultra 4. Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off and one free breakfast item per box for one year, while supplies last, with code talkshow50off. Notion: The collaborative AI workspace where teams and agents work side by side, with a developer platform teams can build on. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Apple’s “Surprise and Shine” keynote. Andru's YouTube channel: Andru's iPhone 18 Pro review. His Duo first impressions. Andru on Threads. Yours truly's iPhone 18 Pro review. My take on the "Surprise and Shine" event and announcements. Apple's 2020 MagSafe Duo Charger for iPhones and Apple Watches. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Chance Miller returns to the show. Topics include iOS 27’s progress over summer, live baseball in Vision Pro, the RAM crisis, Apple’s trade secret lawsuit against OpenAI and io, and the EU/DMA situation. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code TALKSHOW. Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off and one free breakfast item per box for one year, with code talkshow50off. Notion: The collaborative AI workspace where teams and agents work side by side, with a Developer Platform teams can build on. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: “Friday Night Baseball” to Begin Apple Immersive Broadcasts for Vision Pro. OpenAI Responds to Apple’s Lawsuit and Motion for Preliminary Injunction. OpenAI Files 28-Page Motion to Dismiss Apple’s Lawsuit. Kotoba: The Best iOS Dictionary App You’ve Never Heard Of. Will Hains: iOS Version History. Apple Newsroom in November 2022: “Update on Supply of iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max”. European Commission:…

Louie Mantia returns to the show to talk about the state of UI and icon design on Apple's platforms, and some speculation on Apple's trade secret lawsuit against OpenAI. Sponsored by: Notion: The collaborative AI workspace where teams and agents work side by side, with a Developer Platform teams can build on. Even Realities: Even G2, the everyday display smart glasses. Use promo code talkshow to save 10% off the R1 Ring and/or Even Clip. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code TALKSHOW. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Louie on the squircle: “The Shape of Apps”. Me, linking to Louie on the squircle. Louie on Alan Dye: “A Responsibility to the Industry”. Me: “Bad Dye Job”. Me, after WWDC 2025, comparing Dye’s introduction of Liquid Glass to Steve Jobs’s introduction of Aqua back in January 2000. UI designer Chan Karunamuni’s tweet on Steve Lemay: “Steve’s been my manager for my entire 15 year career so far at Apple and I could not be more excited…

Quinn Nelson returns to the show to discuss OpenAI’s ChatGPT/Codex “native” app migration fiasco, Siri AI in Apple’s OS 27 betas, MacOS 27 Golden Gate, and the hottest new cell phone of the year, the Trump T1. Sponsored by: Notion: Try the powerful, all-in-one Notion AI today. Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free daily greens, with code talkshow50off. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code TALKSHOW. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Quinn’s hilarious but utterly fair review of the Trump T1. Quinn: “Apple Just Fixed Mac Gaming and Said Nothing”. John Siracusa on ATP endorsing Quinn’s idea for an Apple gaming console. Valve founder/CEO Gabe Newell on working with Apple. “Stupid-Americans are the New Irish-Americans, Trump is Their JFK”, by “tarltontarlton” on Reddit (and posted here on Daring Fireball). This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

The great John Moltz returns to the show. Topics include Apple’s hardware price hikes in response to the global RAM/SSD shortage, and some spitballing on what we like about the UI changes in the MacOS 27 Golden Gate beta. Sponsored by: Coax: Defeat the tyranny of choice. Channel surf your Plex server. Relax with Coax. Even Realities: Even G2, the everyday display smart glasses. Use promo code talkshow to save 10% off the R1 Ring and/or Even Clip. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code TALKSHOW. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: RAM Doubler and DiskDoubler, which came from two different developers. StuffIt and Compact Pro. “Apple in China” by Patrick McGee. Patrick McGee on The Talk Show last year. “Go Computer Now!”, Ben Zotto’s book on Sphere Computer Corporation. Movies: The Player Airplane! Monty Python and the Holy Grail "Apple Faced Bipartisan Opposition When It Last Lobbied to Buy Chinese RAM in 2022". Gnome, Lex Friedman's clever new…

Jason Snell returns to the show for a look back at WWDC 2026, and a look ahead to Designed in California, his and Myke Hurley’s upcoming 50-episode Apple history podcast. Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free daily greens, with code talkshow50off. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code TALKSHOW. Finalist — A daily planner for iPhone, iPad and Mac, built on proven paper-based planning methods. DF readers get six months free; see details at the link. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: “Designed in California” — Kickstarter campaign running through the end of June 2026 to fund Jason and Myke Hurley’s 50-episode Apple history podcast. If you don’t back this you’re not hooked up right. WebKit in Safari 27 changes and notes, from the WebKit blog. Helium — My favorite Chromium browser for the Mac. Fast, free, no bloat. Camino — An open source Mac-assed web browser based on the Mozilla engine from the 2000s.…

Recorded in front of a live audience at The California Theatre in San Jose on Tuesday 9 June 2026, special guests Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel join John Gruber to discuss Apple’s announcements at WWDC 2026. Video: This show is available to watch on YouTube. 3D video with spatial audio: Exclusively in Sandwich Vision's Theater on Vision Pro, available on the App Store. Sponsored by: DetailsPro — Design with SwiftUI anytime, anywhere: on iPhone, iPad, Mac, or Apple Vision Pro. Get one year of DetailsPro Premium for $26 (normally $59.99) with this link. Flighty — The world’s best flight tracker and travel app. Now hiring one Senior Product Designer and one Senior Full-Stack iOS Engineer. Finalist — A daily planner for iPhone, iPad and Mac, built on proven paper-based planning methods. DF readers get six months free; details at the link. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Apple’s WWDC keynote and State of the Union videos. New Things — Joanna’s new thing. Joanna’s first take on Apple’s…

Stephen Hackett returns to the show to help me make sense of a problem that is hard even to describe, let alone solve, regarding Apple One, family sharing, a separate Media & Purchasing account, and iCloud storage space. Also: what we’re expecting from WWDC 2026. Sponsored by: Notion: Try the powerful, all-in-one Notion AI today. Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free daily greens, with code talkshow50off. Even Realities: Even G2, the everyday display smart glasses. Use promo code talkshow to save 10% off the R1 Ring and/or Even Clip. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code TALKSHOW. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Cross Forward — David Smith’s suite of iOS apps, where Stephen is now managing director. 512 Pixels. Connected — The weekly podcast Stephen co-hosts with Myke Hurley and Federico Viticci. Apple Support: Migrate purchases from one Apple Account to another Apple Account. What happens to your iCloud…

Adam Lisagor returns to the show to talk about Hovercraft, his new virtual presentation camera app for Mac, and how he's developing it with AI coding tools. Also, delicious Japanese spite sandwich cookies. Sponsored by: Parcel: Track your packages in one place, with native apps for iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, and Mac. Scribe: Instantly capture and optimize workflows so your teams and AI agents do their best work. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code TALKSHOW. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Hovercraft — A virtual presentation camera for Mac. Adam’s intro video, on Twitter/X. Version 1.1 is already out with some cool new features. Theater — Sandwich Vision’s theater experience app for VisionOS. Television — Sandwich’s, well, television experience app. Cursor — Adam’s preferred coding agent. Birdhouse, Adam and Cameron Hunt’s “Notepad for Twitter” from 2009. The Birdhouse launch video, which launched Sandwich Video. Daring Fireball: Birdhouse — A…

MG Siegler returns to the show to discuss Apple’s announcement that Tim Cook is stepping aside (into the role of executive chairman) and John Ternus will become CEO. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code TALKSHOW. Drafts: The Swiss Army knife for text on all your Apple devices. Act now to get your first year of Drafts Pro for 50% off. Finalist: A daily planner for iPhone, iPad and Mac, built on proven paper-based planning methods. Use this link to get six months free. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Apple Newsroom: “Tim Cook to become Apple Executive Chairman; John Ternus to become Apple CEO”. “Johny Srouji named Apple’s Chief Hardware Officer”. MG, at Spyglass: “A Cook’s Tour”. “John Ternus’s Magic Show”. Yours truly: “Another Day Has Come”. “Time to Serve Some Delicious Claim Chowder Regarding the Cook-Ternus CEO Transition”. “The New York Times Printed the Wrong Crossword Grid Last Sunday, and I Find That Timing Serendipitous”.…

Who better to join the show to commemorate Apple’s 50th anniversary than John Siracusa? Sponsored by: Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Use code TALKSHOW for $80 in free credits. Notion: The AI workspace where teams and AI agents get more done together. Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year, with code talkshow50off. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code TALKSHOW. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: The Commodore VIC-20. Apple’s looks-good-to-this-day “Snow White” hardware design language from the 1980s, created in collaboration with Frog Design. The Apple IIc — in my opinion, the epitome of “Snow White”. Frog Designed turned 50 back in 2019, and The Verge has some amazing photos from their collection, including a jaw-dropping prototype for the Lisa. Star Blazers. Yours truly, back in 2014, on the Finder’s “Special” menu. Yours truly guesting on The Verge’s Version…

Christina Warren returns to the show to discuss Apple’s big month of product announcements — in particular, the iPhone 17e and MacBook Neo. And we pour one out for the Mac Pro. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code TALKSHOW. Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Use code TALKSHOW for $80 in free credits. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: The iPhone 17e. Thoughts and Observations on the MacBook Neo. My review: The MacBook Neo. Apple Discontinues the Mac Pro With No Plans to Bring It Back. Yankees-Giants opens MLB season, on Netflix. Nomad 65W Slim Power Adapter. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest David Pogue discusses his excellent and amazingly comprehensive new book, Apple: The First 50 Years. Sponsored by: Notion: The AI workspace where teams and AI agents get more done together. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year, with code talkshow50off. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: “Apple: The First 50 Years” official website. Hardcover: Amazon Bookshop.org E-book: Kindle Apple Books Photo of Sculley and the other white dude in suits on his executive team, circa 1993, from page 251. (My son Jonas quipped that they look like the executives from the company that made Robocop.) The “Apple at 50” event David hosted at the Computer History Museum earlier this month. The similar event David hosted two years ago, to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the Macintosh. Matt Neuberg, back in 1998 (!), reviewing Conflict Catcher for…

Jason Snell returns to the show to discuss the 2025 Six Colors Apple Report Card, MacOS 26 Tahoe, Apple Creator Studio, along with what we expect/hope for in next week’s Apple product announcements. Sponsored by: Notion: The AI workspace where teams and AI agents get more done together. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Use code TALKSHOW for $80 in free credits. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Apple in 2025: The Six Colors Report Card. Kieran Healy, in a post at Six Colors published after we recorded the show: “Charting the Vibes in the 2025 Apple Report Card”. Kieran Healy’s homepage/weblog. My 2025 Apple Report Card. Upgrade: “The Shifting Sands of Liquid Glass”, wherein Jason and Myke discuss this year’s report card, and Jason makes rascally comments supporting MacOS 26 Tahoe. (And Myke isn’t much better.) Apple’s July 2025 announcement of the Apple Manufacturing Academy…

Adam Engst returns to the show to talk, in detail, about certain of the UI changes in iOS 26 and Apple's version 26 OSes overall. In particular, the new Unified view in the Phone app, and the Filter pop-up menu in both the Phone and Messages apps. Also: a shoutout to Balloon Help. Sponsored by: Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Use code TALKSHOW for $80 in free credits. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year, with code talkshow50off. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Adam’s two pieces on the Classic and Unified views in the iOS 26 Phone app: “Hidden Setting Controls What Happens When You Tap a Call in the Phone App”. “Comparing the Classic and Unified Views in iOS 26’s Phone App”. My link post, with some commentary. Reader support for TidBITS in 2026. Brent Simmons, linking to code, on how to eliminate all the menu item…

Brent Simmons returns to the show. Topics include NetNewsWire 7, MacOS 26 Tahoe, and I guess, some other stuff. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Use code TALKSHOW for $80 in free credits. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: NetNewsWire 7. How to omit menu item icons on Tahoe. Rogue Amoeba, on omitting those icons. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Daniel Jalkut returns to the show so we can both vent about MacOS 26 Tahoe. Sponsored by: Notion: The AI workspace where teams and AI agents get more done together. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Use code TALKSHOW for $80 in free credits. Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year, with code talkshow50off. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Classic Mac OS Control Strip. Manu Cornet’s oft-cited cartoon caricaturizing the org charts of major tech companies circa 2011. Black Ink. MarsEdit. Rogue Amoeba: “Removing Tahoe’s Unwanted Menu Icons”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

A look back at Apple’s 2025, with special guest Rene Ritchie. Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year, with code talkshow50off. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: The classic Mac OS Appearance Manager and its support for (rather garish) themes: ATPM, August 2000: “GUI Junkie: Schemin’ and Themin’” by Christopher Turner. Includes screenshots. Wikipedia: Appearance Manager. Luria Petrucci celebrates 20 years on YouTube. Steve Jobs on product people vs. sales/marketing people, back in the early 1990s. John Browett’s brief tenure running retail at Apple back in 2012. His sacking was effectively a footnote in the announcement that Apple had parted with Scott Forstall. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest Quinn Nelson returns for a two-topic holiday spectacular: the iPad in the wake of iPadOS 26, and Apple's executive changes as Tim Cook seemingly nears the end of his time as CEO. Sponsored by: Notion: The AI workspace where teams and AI agents get more done together. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Quinn on YouTube: "The iPad's Software Problem Is Permanent". "Apple Is Falling Apart (On Purpose)" (on executive shuffling). Spark -- Quinn's email app of choice. Yours truly back in January 2020: "The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10". Slide Over was originally eliminated in iPadOS 26 but came back in 26.1. Apple Notes extension apps, available on the Mac because they're only possible on the Mac because the iPad and iPhone are baby computers: ProNotes. NotesCmdr. Mark Papermaster, the hardware executive who took the fall for the iPhone 4 antenna saga. The classic cartoon from 2013: "Organizational…

Special guest: Tyler Hayes. Topics include how to get a small phone today, which way foldables should fold, the state of Apple TV (including its new “sonic logo”), and some holiday gift gadget recommendations. Sponsored by: Clic for Sonos: No lag. No hassle. Just Clic. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: This Week The Trend. Tyler on the flip-style Motorola Razr as a small phone solution. DF: “Tyler Hayes Suggests Trying a Flip-Style Foldable If You Want a Smaller Phone”. Tyler: “Apple TV Is Finally Worth $99 Per Year”. Ad Age: “Apple TV’s Colorful New Branding Was Built With Glass and Captured In-Camera”. Aura Ink, $500 e-paper picture frame. Chargers: Anker Nano 70W 3-port charger — $50, on sale for $32 if you act fast. Nomad’s excellent “slim” chargers, in 40W (one port), 65W (two ports), and 100W (two ports) — I think the 65W one is the sweet spot. Nomad’s Wallet Tracking Card, compatible with Find…

Special guest Stephen Robles joins the show. Topics include indie media and YouTube, Shortcuts and automation, and the state of podcasting. Sponsored by: Uncommon Goods: Out of the ordinary gifts, great for the holidays. Save 15% off your next purchase after following that link. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Stephen goes indie: Stephen’s YouTube channel. Announcement: “I Don't Have a Job Anymore, Thanks to You”. Video: “These Shortcuts Are Magic”. Primary Technology: Stephen's podcast, with cohost Jason Aten. Episode 74, May 2025, with yours truly as a guest. Apple Podcasts and AI-generated chapters: Apple Podcasts for Creators: “Enhance Your Episodes With Chapters, Links, and More”. Daring Fireball: “Apple Podcasts Is Adding AI-Generated Chapters for Podcasts Without Chapters”. Primary Technology discussion. Beard.fm: “Apple’s Losing Its Podcast Legacy”. Downie, a fantastic Mac app for downloading local copies of videos from the web (especially YouTube). Daring Fireball post on…

Special guest Dan Frommer returns to the show. Topics include the indie media business, the iPhone Pocket, the iPhone Air (including rumors about the second generation model), AI “personalities”, and five years of Apple Silicon Macs. Also, six years of Dan’s site, The New Consumer. Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year, with code talkshow50off. Notion: The AI workspace where teams and AI agents get more done together. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Dan’s site: The New Consumer. Fromedome. iPhone Pocket: Apple’s announcement. My link. Recalling iPod Socks. Steve Jobs’s signature black turtlenecks. Sold out in hours. iPhone Air: WSJ: “Apple’s iPhone Air Is a Marketing Win and a Sales Flop” My response. Rumors re: the second-gen iPhone Air. Jason Snell at Six Colors, in 2022: “Find Photos Taken by Specific iPhone Lenses”. Emmanuel…

Special guest Brian Mueller, developer of Carrot Weather, joins the show to commemorate the 10th anniversary of his utterly ridiculous but totally serious weather app. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Uncommon Goods: Out of the ordinary gifts. Get 15% off your next purchase. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Carrot Weather. The rest of Brian’s Carrot suite of apps. CARROT: The Musical, on YouTube. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Dan Moren returns to the show. Topics include Atlas, ChatGPT's new web browser (or anti-web browser) for the Mac; Apple's loss in a "landmark" regulatory lawsuit in the UK regarding App Store commission rates; multiple reports of poor sales for the iPhone Air; and Apple's M5 product announcements: MacBook Pro, iPads Pro, and Vision Pro. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for 1 year. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Sleep++, David Smith’s iOS sleep app that ties into Apple Health data, and gives what I think is a much more accurate and interesting “sleep score” than does Apple Health itself in iOS 26. ChatGPT Atlas: new Chromium browser for Mac: OpenAI’s announcement. Their promotion to get 7 days of higher ChatGPT usage if you make, and keep, Atlas as your default browser. Anil Dash: “ChatGPT’s Atlas: The Browser That’s Anti-Web”. Simon…

John Moltz returns to the show to talk about the iPhone 17 lineup: the iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max, iPhone 17, and the no-number iPhone Air. Not one word about baseball, but some Star Wars talk may or may not have snuck in. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Get 3 months and 150,000 errors free. Factor: Get 50% off your first box, plus free breakfast for one year. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Halide -- a great iPhone camera app with a "Technical Readout" feature that provides detailed specs regarding every camera on your phone. Techmeme's roundup of iPhones 17 reviews that actually were published on the embargo date. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest Andru Edwards joins the show. Topics include Google’s Pixel 10 event and the Pixel 10 family of devices, AI’s effect on computational photography, foldable phones, and some speculation on Apple’s September 9 “Awe Dropping” event. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Get 3 months and 150,000 errors free. Notion: The best AI tool for work, with your notes, docs, and projects in one space. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Where to find Andru: YouTube. Circuit Breaker. Geared Up. Yours truly on Geared Up, earlier this year. Threads. Google’s Pixel 10 family comparison page (copying Apple’s longstanding “Compare” pages to a T). Google’s Pixelsnap compatibility / support page. “Awe Dropping” Apple event: Tuesday 9 Sept. Me being snarky about foldable phone sales on Threads. Adobe’s Project Indigo — a free expert camera app for iPhone, spearheaded by Marc…

Matthew Panzarino returns to the show. Topics include 007 logo creator Joe Caroff’s death at 103, Google’s weird “Made by Google” event hosted by Jimmy Fallon, the UK supposedly dropping its demand for an iCloud encryption backdoor, and Apple’s workaround for the Apple Watch blood oxygen sensor patent stalemate. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Get 3 months and 150,000 errors free. Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: The Obsessor — Matthew’s excellent still-pretty-new blog. Joe Caroff, Designer of the James Bond 007 Logo, Dies at 103. Jeff Bezos Reportedly “Obsessed” With Casting Wife Lauren Sánchez In Major Role In Amazon MGM’s New “James Bond”. Victoria Song: “The Made by Google event felt like being sucked into an episode of Wandavision”. Tulsi Gabbard Says the U.K. Government…

Special guest Louie Mantia joins the show to talk about Liquid Glass, the various OS 26 updates, and the worrisome state of Apple’s UI design overall. Also: sandwiches. Sponsored by: Quip: A supercharged clipboard manager and text expander for Mac, iPhone, and iPad. Notion: The best AI tool for work, with your notes, docs, and projects in one space. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Louie’s personal website, chock full of downloadable wallpapers, icons, and more. Louie, on Alan Dye: “A Responsibility to the Industry”. Louie on Mastodon. Parakeet, Louie’s design partnership with Luka Grafera. Steve Jobs introducing the new icon for iTunes that Louie made (the best iTunes icon ever). Daring Fireball: “Sorry, MacOS Tahoe Beta 2 Still Does the Finder Icon Dirty” (with links, at the bottom, to Louie’s mockup of how Liquid Glass versions of the Finder icon should look). My polls on light/dark mode…

Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the early PC platform rivalries of the 1980s, iOS 26 leaks (and Apple suing YouTuber Jon Prosser), the various Apple OS 26 public betas and the state of Liquid Glass, and more. (Where by “more” I mean a little baseball and keyboard nerdery.) Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Sentry: The real-time error monitoring and tracing platform that helps dev teams and tech companies build better, more reliable products. Use code talkshow for 3 months free and 150,000 errors. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: The MLB All-Star Game "swing-off". NuPhy Kick75 mechanical Bluetooth keyboard. The weird key layout of the Apple Keyboard (ADB). Tinkerboy’s ADB-to-USB adapter. (Email Tinkerboy if you’re interested — he has a USB-C adapter too, not listed on the website.) Jason’s keyboard and the switches inside.…

Special guest David Smith returns to the show for a developer's perspective look at WWDC 2025. Sponsored by: TRMNL: A hackable e-ink display. Save $15 with code GRUBER. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Michael Flarup's mockup for a MacOS 26 Finder icon Louie Mantia's (even better) mockup for a MacOS 26 Finder icon Benedict Evans: “The Best Is the Last” Podsearch Under the Radar David-Smith.org Widgetsmith Pedometer++ Sleep++ Widgetsmith Hands-On: How Apple’s New Speech APIs Outpace Whisper for Lightning-Fast Transcription Tim Cook Reveals Apple’s Vision for Movies and TV Musk’s xAI Burns Through $1 Billion a Month as Costs Pile Up This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Chance Miller returns to the show to discuss the news and announcements from WWDC 2025. Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box with code talkshow50off. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. BetterHelp: Give online therapy a try at BetterHelp and get on your way to being your best self. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Daring Fireball: “One Week Out, Some Brief Thoughts and Observations on WWDC 2025”. WatchOS 26 finally supports once-per-second ticking seconds hands on more watch faces on Series 10. The ongoing dispute between Apple and Massimo over the blood oxygen sensors in recent Apple Watch models. May 2024: “Apple Apologizes for Controversial iPad Pro Ad, Scraps Plans for TV Campaign”. August 2024: “Apple Pulls Latest Ad After Criticism Over Depiction of Thailand”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Recorded in front of a live audience at The California Theatre in San Jose Tuesday evening, special guests Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel join me to discuss Apple’s announcements at WWDC 2025. Video: This show is available to watch in 4K video on YouTube. 3D video with spatial audio: Exclusively in Sandwich Vision's Theater on Vision Pro, available on the App Store. Sponsored by: iMazing: The world’s most trusted software to transfer and save your messages, music, files, and data from your iPhone or iPad to your Mac or PC. DetailsPro: Design with SwiftUI anytime, anywhere -- on iPhone, iPad, Mac, or Apple Vision Pro. Ooni: Next-gen pizza power. The Koda 2 Pro oven features smarter heat, more room, and easier control. Save 10% with code thetalkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: WWDC 2025 Keynote. Joanna’s full 24-minute interview with Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak this week. The Verge: 28-minute supercut of the WWDC 2025 keynote and their take on the 13 biggest announcements. This…

Patrick McGee joins the show to discuss his must-read new book, Apple in China -- one of the best books about Apple anyone has ever written. Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Notion: Your notes, docs, and projects in one space. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: “Apple in China”, Patrick’s spectacular new book. Patrick on The Daily Show With Jon Stewart. Excerpt from the book in the Sunday Times of London. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Stephen Hackett, proprietor of 512 Pixels and co-founder of Relay (purveyor of many fine podcasts), joins the show. Topics include: IO (or if you will, io), the new joint venture of OpenAI and Jony Ive’s LoveFrom; the sheer fantasy of “Made in America” iPhones; and Fortnite’s return to the US App Store. Sponsored by: WorkOS: The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. BetterHelp: Give online therapy a try at BetterHelp and get on your way to being your best self. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Apple in China, Patrick’s spectacular new book. Patrick on The Daily Show With Jon Stewart. Excerpt from the book in the Sunday Times of London. Millions, Billions, Zillions, Brian Kernighan’s fun little book on practical day-to-day math. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Craig Mod returns to the show to discuss his splendid new book, Things Become Other Things. Other topics include creating with AI tools (including programming), social media permanence vs. ephemerality, and more. Sponsored by: Dekáf Coffee Roasters: You won’t believe it’s decaf. That’s the point. 30% off with code: DF. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Notion: Try the powerful, easy-to-use Notion AI today. WorkOS: The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: “Things Become Other Things”, Craig’s new book from Random House (!): Craig’s web page for the book — including tour dates. Random House’s page for the book. Purchase links: Amazon Bookshop.org Apple Books Barnes & Noble Craig’s home page. The Good Place — Craig’s write-up on designing and building (with Claude Code) his own custom Twitter-like ephemeral social network for members of his (fun, excellent) Special…

Special guest Glenn Fleishman returns to the show for episode 420 on 4/20, but everyone’s sober, I swear. Topics include Trump’s dumb tariffs and Glenn’s smart new edition of his book Six Centuries of Type & Printing. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Notion: Try the powerful, easy-to-use Notion AI today. BetterHelp: Give online therapy a try at BetterHelp and get on your way to being your best self. Clic for Sonos: No lag. No hassle. Just Clic. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Pre-order “Six Centuries of Type & Printing: New Edition”. My link to Glenn’s Kickstarter page. “.BLUE proposes to create an Internet space in which businesses, organizations and individuals can create an Internet identity tied to the color and the concept of blue.”. XKCD comic on open source dependencies. Pathmark’s “No Frills” Brand. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

MG Siegler returns to the show to talk about the drama surrounding Siri and Apple Intelligence. Sponsored by: WorkOS: The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. Check out their latest features from Launch Week. BetterHelp: Give online therapy a try at BetterHelp and get on your way to being your best self. OpenCase: MagSafe perfected that's thinner, lighter, and more secure. Save 10% with code TALKSHOW. Unofficial but surprisingly good transcripts. Links: Daring Fireball posts: Apple Is Delaying the ‘More Personalized Siri’ Apple Intelligence Features Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino Gurman: Tim Cook Has Put Mike Rockwell in Charge of Siri, Reporting to Craig Federighi A Postscript on the Singular Nature of Mark Gurman’s Reporting Posts from MG at Spyglass, which you should subscribe to: Apple Joins the Navy Siri’s Quixotic Swim to Hawaii The Siri Shuffle MG’s March 2011 scoop at TechCrunch, “Legends of the Fall, Apple Style”, which correctly called…

Craig Hockenberry returns to the show. Topics include Apple’s new hardware this week — M3 iPad Airs, A16 regular iPads, M4 MacBook Airs, and the M4 Max and surprising M3 Ultra Mac Studios. And we go deep on The Iconfactory’s years-in-the-making new app, Tapestry — a universal timeline for the Internet. Exclusively sponsored by: Google Gemini: Chat to supercharge your ideas. Unofficial but surprisingly good transcripts. Links: Daring Fireball posts of note: “Apple Updates iPad Air (M2→M3) and Regular iPad (A14→A16), and Revamps Magic Keyboard for iPad Air”. “Apple Announces, With Little Surprise, M4 MacBook Airs”. “Apple Announces, With Much Surprise, Mac Studios With M4 Max and M3 Ultra (!) Chips”. From January: “Openvibe, a Multi-Social-Network App for Bluesky, Mastodon, Threads (Supposedly), and Nostr”. Tapestry: “Weaving your favorite blogs, social media, and more into a unified and chronological timeline.” Craig, on the Iconfactory blog: “Enter Tapestry”. Cheryl Cicha, also on the Iconfactory blog:…

Special guest: Paul Kafasis. Special topics: Siri/Super Bowl nonsense, “Gulf of Mexico/America” nonsense, the iPhone 16e gets announced, and a veritable Bond villain buys the rights to the James Bond movie franchise. Sponsored by: Listen Later: Turn articles into podcasts and listen on the go, with AI-powered narration. Unofficial but surprisingly good transcripts. Links: Super Bowl nonsense: Every play featured in the 1977 CBS "NFL Today" opening credits would be a severe penalty for violence in today's NFL. Video on YouTube; story on Awful Announcing. Apple in 2017, [encouraged people to ask Siri questions about the Super Bowl]( https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/01/hey-siri-whos-going-to-win-the-super-bowl/ ). Paul's post at One Foot Tsunami: "Not So Super, Apple". My post: "Siri Is Super Dumb and Getting Dumber". "Gulf of Mexico" nonsense: Daring Fireball: "Golfo del Gringo Loco". Paul, thoughtfully: "Do Not Obey in Advance". "Thoughts and Observations on Today’s iPhone 16e Announcement". Rogue Amoeba:…

Kagi founder and CEO Vlad Prelovac joins the show to talk about the business of web search, the thinking behind Kagi’s own amazing search engine, and their upstart WebKit-based browser Orion. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Memberful: Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today. Unofficial but surprisingly good transcripts. Links: Kagi. Kagi Blog. Kagi Search Stats. Kagi Feedback, the Kagi Search issue tracker. Orion — Kagi’s lightweight WebKit-based native browser for Mac and iOS. Vladimir Prelovac’s homepage. Apple’s 1987 “Knowledge Navigator” concept video, which supposedly took place in the “future” of 2011. Wikipedia entry. Daring Fireball, 2011: “The Type of Companies That Publish Future Concept Videos”. Wikipedia: “Essential facilities doctrine”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest Allen Pike joins the show to talk about the state of generative AI and how Apple Intelligence measures up (so far). Also: some speculation on Apple’s pending acquisition of the ever-difficult-to-pronounce Pixelmator. Sponsored by: WorkOS: The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. Links: Allen’s blog. Allen’s take on Apple Intelligence, so far: “It’s Good for Apple, and Okay for You”. (Includes the Image-Playground–generated derpy-looking images of Allen that we discuss on the show.) Forestwalk Labs — Allen’s new startup. Allen’s podcasts: Fun Facts with Arik Devens, now complete. It Shipped That Way. CGP Grey and Myke Hurley discuss how Apple Intelligence message suggestions feel “anti-human” on Cortex ep. 161. Cursor — “The AI Code Editor”. Rich Sutton’s 2019 essay “The Bitter Lesson” (“The biggest lesson that can be read from 70 years of AI research is that general methods that leverage computation are ultimately the most effective, and by a large…

Joanna Stern returns to the show to talk about our new best friends, AI chatbots, and I chime in with how the Voight-Kampff test got it all wrong. Sponsored by: WorkOS: The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Memberful: Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today. Links: Joanna on YouTube: “I Spent 24 Hours in the Woods With Talking AI Chatbots”. Joanna’s excellent interview with Craig Federighi on Apple Intelligence, which is also on YouTube. My commentary linking to it. Ann-Marie Alcántara’s Wall Street Journal piece: “When Did Apple’s Notes App Become an Extension of Our Brains?” (also on News+) Larry David on Siri. Voight-Kampff Test. There’s a social media thing where people are posting ChatGPT’s illustrations from the prompt “Based on what you know about me, draw a picture of what you think my current life looks like.” Here’s mine: I’m all alone in a…

This again. Jiminy. Well, once more, let's talk around another election, and try, by doing so, to maybe express something about it. Sponsored by: Tiptop: A new way to pay that combines Instant Trade-In and Pay-in-4 at checkout. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Memberful: Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today. Links: Previously on The Talk Show, with Merlin: Holiday Party 2016 (the bad one) Holiday Party 2020 (the good one) Yours truly, on this week: “How It Went”. Seki Edge nail clippers: Panzarino at The Obsessor: “The Best Nail Clippers You’ll Ever Use”. The Talk Show, October 2022: ‘Big Booger Came After You’, where Merlin first recommended these to me. Get them at Amazon for $16. Buy two pairs. Kai scissors. Get a few pairs of these too. Merlin’s Wisdom Project. Read this if you haven’t. Read it again if you have. So good. Reconcilable Differences — Merlin’s podcast with John Siracusa. The kids call it “Rec Diffs”. Merlin’s…

Dan Moren returns to the show to discuss this week’s introductions of the first M4 Macs: iMac, Mac Mini, and MacBook Pros. Sponsored by: WorkOS: The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Memberful: Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today. Links: Yours Truly: “In Defense, I Swear, of the Magic Mouse’s Charging Port Placement”. “Sidenote of the Week: All MacBook Air Models Now Start With 16 GB RAM”. David Schaub’s chart of base RAM in Mac desktops since 1984. His corresponding chart of base RAM in Mac laptops since 1999. Dan, in a column for Macworld: “The Truth Behind Apple’s Most Unpopular Decisions: It’s Not About You”. M4 iMac: Daring Fireball: “Apple Introduces M4 iMacs, With Updated Colors, a Nano-Texture Display Option, and USB-C Input Peripherals”. MacRumors: “M1 vs. M3 vs. M4 iMac Buyer's Guide”. M4 Mac Mini, now even mini-er: Daring Fireball: “Apple…

Tyler Stalman joins the show to discuss the iPhone 16 lineup’s cameras, and the state of iPhone photography. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Memberful: Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today. Links: Tyler Stalman on YouTube: iPhone 16: A Photographer's Review. What's on his iPhone 16. Tyler’s recommended Photographic Styles recipe: Undertone: Amber Tone: -50 to -60 Color: 20 Palette: 100 JPEG XL. Steven Soderbergh has shot two feature films on iPhones: Unsane -- shot on iPhone 7 in 2018. High Flying Bird -- shot on iPhone 8 in 2019. Robert Rodriguez: El Mariachi — his debut feature film, shot for just $7,000 in 1992. Desperado — his big-budget 1995 sequel, starring Antonio Banderas and Selma Hayek. Rebel Without a Crew — Rodriguez’s book on the making of El Mariachi. Benedict Evans: “The Best Is the Last”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Jason Snell returns to the show to discuss Apple’s September product announcements, and Meta’s Orion prototype AR glasses. Absolutely no baseball talk, almost. Sponsored by: WorkOS: The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Memberful: Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today. Links: Ten years of Six Colors. Take Control of Photos (updated for iOS 18 and MacOS 15 Sequoia). KQED: Fans Flood Coliseum to Bid Emotional Farewell to A’s at Last Game in Oakland. A’s fan who was at their first game in Oakland in 1968, and their final game last week. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Nilay Patel returns to the show to consider the iPhones 16. Sponsored by: Tiptop: A new way to pay that combines Instant Trade-In and Pay-in-4 at checkout. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: Nilay’s review of the iPhone 16 Pro. Also from Nilay: “Let’s Compare Apple, Google, and Samsung’s Definitions of ‘a Photo’”. Yours Truly’s iPhones 16 review. Also from truly: “The Things They Carried” (thoughts and observations on Apple’s event). This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest Taegan Goddard, longtime writer and founder of Political Wire, joins the show to talk about the past, present, and future of independent media. Sponsored by: WorkOS: The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million MAUs. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: Political Wire. Greymatter — open source blogging software by Noah Grey, released in 2000. Greymatter 1.8.2 User Manual. Slashdot, 2022: “How The Internet Saved the Home of Blogging Pioneer Noah Grey”. Mark Pilgrim, back in 2002: “History of the RSS Fork”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Chance Miller, ace reporter (and editor-in-chief) for 9to5Mac, joins the show to talk about the latest changes to Apple's DMA compliance plans with iOS, expectations for the September Apple event, and more. Sponsored by: WorkOS: The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million MAUs. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: Chance Miller on Threads. Apple's August DMA compliance tweaks announcement. iOS 18 adding default app controls for messaging, phone calls, navigation, and more in the EU. Everthing Chance knows about the iPhone 16 "capture button". 9to5Mac report on expected iPhone 16 colors. Preview of expected announcements the September Apple event. 9to5Mac Happy Hour's 500th episode. Becca Farsace's great day-in-the-life profile of iJustine. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Christina Warren (a.k.a. "Mary Brown") returns to the show. Topics include Apple's new iOS 18.1 and MacOS 15.1 betas (featuring Apple Intelligence), a little reminiscing about Gil Amelio and Steve Jobs, and the bizarre saga of TUAW, resurrected as a zombie AI slopsite. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: “On the Firing Line: My 500 Days at Apple” by Gil Amelio. Steve Jobs introduces the Mac OS X Dock — and the purple “single window mode” button — at MWSF 2000. Coverage of zombie TUAW and Christina's AI-generated alter ego: Christina, announcing the scam on Threads, and on Mastodon, both of which resulted in interesting threads. Karissa Bell at Engadget: "[Apple Blog TUAW Returns as an AI Content Farm](Apple blog TUAW returns as an AI content farm)". Jason Koebler at 404 Media: “Hocked TUAW”. The Verge: “Early Apple Tech Bloggers Are Shocked to Find Their Name and Work Have Been AI-Zombified”. Ernie Smith, deducing that the new owner of TUAW…